• molave@reddthat.com
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    7 hours ago

    On one hand: It’s impossible to dub every single anime at a reasonable time.

    On the other: I totally see the big companies refusing to hire real actors for dubbing because ‘muh profits’

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        There are ~25K anime in MyAnimeList. If we assume that there are 250K episodes with a total average length of 25 minutes, each, we are talking about dubbing 6.25 million minutes overall.

        Let’s say 80% of them is not yet dubbed, that’ll be 5M minutes. Netflix delayed KaoruHana for at least two months to dub 8 episodes * 25 minutes, so they likely took three months to complete 200 minutes of footage i.e. a rate of 0.3 anime minutes/VA minute. Let’s say there are 100 organizations with three teams of dubbers each, so the rate can be expanded to 90 anime minutes/VA minute overall.

        Clearing the backlog will require 55K minutes. That’s 925 hours/115 business days, or almost a year. I guess it is possible if we wait this long. And this calculation ignores time to select the right VA for the job, paying the amount the VAs request to accept the job, plus a whole lot of other factors I failed to mention or I don’t even know exist.

        And this is for just one language (English), and I’m still waiting for the Italian dub of JoJo Part 5.

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          If we assume

          bruv every anime listed in MAL has runtimes, lengths, and additional metadata. Your overestimation is simply wrong, with the fact there are few N1 localizers willing to work at the 硬貨 on the دينار for whatever AMZN is valued at. If you don’t pay what we are worth, continue waiting on Italians to localize Jojo for you at N5 levels of knowledge.

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            How is “every anime has one season of 10 episodes running 25 minutes each” an overestimation? I’d call that an underestimation. Yeah, there are anime with much shorter runtimes, but there are also many anime with well over 100 episodes.

            Not to mention, are you really expecting this random person to write an interface for their API to get exact numbers for an off the cuff online discussion?

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            I prefer proper VA dubbing versus AI dubbing. This is more of a question if the viewership prefers AI dub vs. no dub if proper dubs are not yet available.

            bruv every anime listed in MAL has runtimes, lengths, and additional metadata.

            Fair, I don’t have the time right now to be 100% accurate at my figures, so I went with a rough estimate. I tried to be as clear as I can on that point.

            there are few N1 localizers willing to work at the 硬貨 on the دينار for whatever AMZN is valued at

            If it’s only easy for fandubs to be readily available. Like there are few N1 localizers willing to work at Amazon’s assessed rates, few IP holders are willing to say yes to dubbing their shows at the money fandubbers can afford. There’s also hiring the proper voice actors for the characters, and the ones who do the anime justice/will not have the fans crucifying the anime for doing a craptastic job at dubbing deservedly ask a premium.

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              viewership prefers AI dub vs. no dub

              According to the beta testers, and the Internet, listeners abhorred the LLM localization & actual tone-deaf Speech audio dubbing. Keeping the original dubbings is simply what folks want, esp. if it’s labeled abridged.

              [components of dubbing]

              At the least you are aware why this /c/ prefers subs, because it is that much cheaper and errorless to output.

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                According to the beta testers, and the Internet, listeners abhorred the LLM localization & actual tone-deaf Speech audio dubbing. Keeping the original dubbings is simply what folks want, esp. if it’s labeled abridged.

                Yes, at its current state. Will it stay that way? The tech companies are burning cash in attempts to make it not so. My hunch says even Vocaloid-tier AI dubbing will be enough for a large sector of the audience. Then the human vs. AI dubbing debate could be analogous to debates between lossy (more accessible) vs. lossless (higher quality) audio.

                Now, LLM localization is the greater challenge. I highly doubt those, including the classic machine-learning models, can reach N1-level localization quality.

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                  The only thing funny about mentioning Vocaloid is the fact that Vocaloid synthesis has to be manually pitched, tempod, and toned🤣. Glad you honestly believe capitalists want to invest more on disqualifying tone deafening pitchless speech waveforms.

                  But please, never stop supporting espeak!