Don’t forget the programming socks trans girl programmer
I thought that’s what the second last one was gonna be
It could also be the first/second one.
Nah that one seems more like a femboy, since they’re using he/him pronouns.
I meant before I read the content, just based off image
Probably tye second one tbh
Ten years into casual programming and I still don’t know how to use a debugger.
I believe in a conspiracy theory that nobody uses debuggers.
I have used them occasionally. It’s sometimes easier to use logging because you can dump an enormous amount of information and quickly then look through it if you already know what kind of information you want to look at. Debuggers are better when you have no idea what the hell is going wrong and need to get a little bit of info from everything instead of a lot of info from one thing.
I work with 20 year old legacy spaghetti code, the debugger has become one of my most treasured tools.
I also work with 20 year old spaghetti code, but my software is primarily middleware and debuggers aren’t allowed on the full system where I’d actually be able to reproduce the issue. Insane amounts of logging statements have become my most treasured tool.
Grep log will outlive us all
console.logcounts as “a debugger”, right?It does for me!
Yes, but only because it gives you a link to where that was run. Click the link to the right with filename:lineNumber, and it will open the sources tab to that line. Set a breakpoint and rerun to pause there, then step through the code’s execution.
Of course, if you’re using minified or processed code, this will be more difficult, in that case figure out how to do it in VS Code.
I use them daily. It makes it so much easier to work with an existing code base
Yep. Once you get the hang of it, you will cringe to think of all the wasted effort that came before. But getting the hang of it takes dedication.
Thankfully I use python mostly and pycharm makes it easy-ish to get the debugger hooked up to a project. But learning that process definitely took a few days
After decades of print debugging I finally got dap up and running in vim. It is very nice. Would recommend.
I can record a video tomorrow if it helps?
Does this include C programmers? I’ve definitely found GDB to be indispensable in the past (or maybe that’s what they would want you to think).
It’s easy, you just step, step, step, step in, or wait, over, or, oops.
Watch a Video or read something because it really is an invaluable tool. But here’s a crash course:
Debuggers, or IDEs, let you step through your code in slo-mo so you can see what is happening.
- Set a breakpoint - Click to the left of a line of code so a red dot appears. Run your program, and the IDE will execute to that line, then pause.
- Look at variables’ values - While the execution is paused you can hover over variables before that line to see their value.
- Step through the code - See what happens next in slo-mo.
- Use “Step Into” to enter into a function and see what that code does.
- Use “Step Over” to not go into a function and continue in the current spot after the function has done its business.
- Use “Step Out” to exit a function and pick up the execution after it has run. Use this when you’re in too deep and the code stops making sense.
- See whats in the heap - The heap will list all the functions that you’re currently inside of. You can jump to any of those points by clicking them.
- Set a watch - Keep a variable in the watch so you can see what its value is at all times.
- Set a condition on the breakpoint - If the breakpoint is inside a big loop, you can right-click on the red dot to create a conditional breakpoint, so you write something like x===3 and it will only pause when x is 3.
There are many other things an IDE can do to help you, so def look into it more if you want to save yourself a lot of insanity. But this is a good starting point.
If you’re developing for the web use F12 to open web tools, and when an error happens, click the file/line number to see that point in the Sources tab, and you can debug there.
That sounds really cool
Thank you for writing this out
The only real time I use a debugger is to tell me what line a default occured at.
It can be useful sometimes. Same for print. And logfiles.
Good my colleagues think I am Hackerman that can hack through time!
Kung Fury will never not be amazing
That image goes so incredibly hard
Dude, literally me. Whenever my friends or my brother’s friend come to my room, I opened up a few terminals with only one of them is actually for coding and they thoight I could hack someone’s Facebook account or something LMAO.
Yes I live in Southeast Asia
I have seen this meme at least 471 times, it’s still as funby as the first time.
Samir is mad op, those indian youtubers know everything
What I want to know is who taught the original Indian YouTube tutor. Was he born with the knowledge?
The goddess Namagiri.
Om Namo Namagiriyai Namah, must be the mantra to be a successful programmer then I guess.
You have to record it and run it through a Mellin transform first for it to really work. Don’t worry, some guy came up with an analytical expression for it based on the polynomial expansion of the input.
I feel like you are about to have an unexpected visit from Bob Howard.
The Laundy Files, if anyone is wondering. And my thing was about Srinivasa Ramanujan.
Hrm, so did Ramanujan really die or did he get snatched up by the Indian equivalent of the Invisible College?
It’s Indian YouTube tutors all the way down.
I was going to say. That’s a way more terrifying flex than everything else here.
OMG, of all the memes I read all day long, this had to be the one to actually make laugh hard.
Father, I want to see the face of VBA god
Set Forms!frmFaceOfGod!OLECustomControl.Picture = LoadPicture("\\linux-nfs.local\nullshare\%*!!.bmp")He’s the only man I know, the only man I want to be.
Ok, so, I thought I was crazy when I said “debug it” and my coworkers were like “you can read that shit?”
My colleague literally once said to me “i can’t read bleep bloops”
Heck I remember when you had to read “bleep bloops”. POST codes came in beeps, and that’s how you knew why the computer wouldn’t start.
Sometimes I miss em, wish it gave those in addition to the modern indicators. Then I could just tell without even looking.
Do modern PCs even support IBM-style speakers any more?
Yes. My latest mobo has the pins for a POST speaker, but didn’t actually come with one. Installed it though and it works.
Now I’m wondering if my board supports one. I think it’d be cool if my big fancy custom cooling loop gaming build sounded like it’s from the early 90s.
Most boards still do. I have a couple x570 boards lying around that do, and my friend just got an x670e board that has one. They all have the setting in the BIOS for the POST beep as well, and you can set it up in your OS to beep at a specific frequency/duration for notifications.
That’s exactly what I have! An X570-A-PRO. We’ll see, haven’t gotten around to messing with this.
I didn’t even bother checking on the last box I built. I know I’ve got at least one proper speaker and one piezo in a crate somewhere.
Some motherboards have a tiny piezoelectric speaker soldered on, which replaced the larger speakers that used to be used. It’s becoming less and less common though.
My current mobo has LED post codes.
I hate it with a passion. The manual doesn’t list that the CPU led and MEM led are lit when the +5V rail is too low from too much load on it from the USB devices.
though thinking about it I should probably figure out WHY that’s a problem
Yeah the LEDs can be confusing. I like the fancy systems that have an eight-segment LED display (those basic ones that can show numbers and some letters) that show an error code. My work PC (a Lenovo ThinkStation) has the error code display on the front of the PC so you don’t even have to open it to determine the issue.
My b350 board supported that style of speaker. Newer machines apparently use the start button led in some cases.
I can really emphasise with Samir. Working in healthcare I’m basically limited to just the Office applications. However in the past few years I’ve been able to cook up solutions by reading / writing to file based databases, and using VBA to generate and bind to HTML contents on the fly for the built in IE11 instance. It’s as close to getting to some kind of web-stack within the confines of IT Sec in healthcare.
Just a heads up, I think the word you’re looking for is empathize.
This is interesting, can you tell us more about how this is done?
For the backend I used the ADO library to create a MSAccess DB on a shared network folder. Then it’s a matter of using VBA to generate SQL commands to same library to read / write records from the DB.
For the frontend, I use VBA to generate a HTML document from the fetched data. For the IE control in a user form, you can then write the HTML to it. During this process you can bind local VBA variables to any of the html elements in the page.
A common flow would be:
- User clicks an element in a table
- simple JS on the page does some calculation, stores a value in a hidden input and clicks it.
- the user form variable detects the click in the monitored element, reads the changes, and acts on it.
I also have VBScript to act as the launcher by copying the excel file to the local machine, and launching the local copy. This solves the concurrency issue.
Working in healthcare I’m basically limited…
Here I was expecting you to start talking about MUMPS.
I identify with Samir, but without all of his vast knowledge.
“Samir… you’re breaking the car!”
I’m Samir, I can code kernel drivers in vba
Please don’t.
I can but then I have to call IT to start Excel with elevated privileges so I don’t
I’m in this picture and I like it. I’m wjhbr.
Ahaha, yes. I lost it and found it hilarious when I got to that part of the picture, then went “Hey wait a second… that’s me!”
I have worked with most of these people at one point or another. I used to sit next to an old architect like walters. He had so many patents the company only recognize him on every 10th one.
“Can reveal the face of God using VBA”
This one got me good. I became a VBA king being in one of those locked down environments.
As someone with ADHD I am a mix of hackerman and tharg. Unfortunately the Adderall just makes me barely function and Ive never actually hacked anything
