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  • We also briefly discussed this in Games Master, if only to discover how wide and diverse the range of perspectives are. I feel it misrepresents the subject to talk about a “literal definition”, and to explicitly include “win conditions”. Because there are multiple attempts of a definition, and many do not include win conditions.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game

    One such example definition:

    “To play a game is to engage in activity directed toward bringing about a specific state of affairs, using only means permitted by specific rules, where the means permitted by the rules are more limited in scope than they would be in the absence of the rules, and where the sole reason for accepting such limitation is to make possible such activity.” (Bernard Suits)[14]

    You seem to refer to Chris Crawford’s definition, which is in part:

    If no goals are associated with a plaything, it is a toy. (Crawford notes that by his definition, (a) a toy can become a game element if the player makes up rules, and (b) The Sims and SimCity are toys, not games.) If it has goals, a plaything is a challenge.

    Explicitly calling SimCity “not a game” is purely academic talk, detached from reality. For everyone else, SimCity is clearly a game. If you want to buy it, you look for games, not toys. I feel definitions are questionable which define something to be not what everybody thinks it is.

    Was Minecraft not a game until it included “The End”? I loved playing Minecraft, but I rarely cared about The End, even after it was included. When a player cannot tell the difference between a version of a game which includes a win condition, and a version which does not, how can the existence of that condition be a decisive factor?

    If we widen the scope to include any game, not just video games, we can also have a look at popular children’s games like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_Association. My theater group loves to play win-free games as a warmup practice.

    From my point of view, win conditions are a common characteristic of games, but not necessary or defining. Coming up with a short definition which captures all games and excludes all non-games is surprisingly hard.


  • Spzi@lemm.eetoBoost For Lemmy@lemmy.worldThis is not ok
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    1 year ago

    It was post #1 on my ‘All’ feed, sorted by ‘Active’. Not sure how it got there, but now … maybe yes.

    I also hate ‘legitimate interest’ from the bottom of my heart. If you need to make it so hard for people to say ‘no’, or even outright ignore their wish, maybe reconsider your business practices.



  • Spzi@lemm.eetoProgrammer Humor@lemmy.mlEnd users
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    1 year ago

    Me in tech support.

    Customer calls: “Internet is not working!!”

    Me: “Router lights status?”

    Customer: “Can’t tell.”

    Me: “Why?”

    Customer: “Router still in box.”

    Me: “…?”

    Me (pretends it was just an error of communication): “Can you please describe the lights on your router?”

    Customer: “I can’t. It’s still in the packaging. The box is on my table.”

    Me: “…??? … You … need at least electricity to power this device.”

    Customer spirals into rage and madness: “I ordered wireless internet!! I won’t plug any cables in! I did not want any wires!!!”


  • Spzi@lemm.eetoProgrammer Humor@lemmy.mlDiscord != Documentation
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    1 year ago

    Which might be seen as a positive by some people (not me).

    It encourages social interaction. Every answered question becomes a valid option to ask again just a short time later. And to answer again.

    It also takes the burden to search from those who have questions. Just keep the chat flowing.

    Maybe it’s a bit like asking people on the street for directions, instead of using your phone. Less efficient and accurate, but you might get a smile in the process.


  • Spzi@lemm.eetoProgrammer Humor@lemmy.mlwhy not a,b or x,y?
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    1 year ago

    I find it hard to read when these are together:

    • i, j, l
    • n, m, u, v, w

    From all the possible character combinations, somehow the lookalike combinations are among the most popular. Yes, probably comes from math. I hated it even more when my math prof’s i and j on the board were indistinguishable.