• Paragone@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    Years ago, I wanted to read Nobokov’s “Lolita” to discover what all the fuss was about.

    A copy appeared on the building’s donations-table…

    I nabbed it…

    Began reading it…

    it’s the diary of a pedophile.

    So, I took the thing, & went down to the building’s paper-recycling-bin, & buried it in that bin.

    Normalizing molesting isn’t good for our world.


    Would I ban the book?

    From grade-schools, certainly.

    probably more, but I’d want it to remain in existence, to show people that normalizing-things is an actual problem, in some domains.


    Here’s a more-fundamental view of the question, though:

    Say there was a book which normalized DarkTetrad behavior towards … say women.

    ( DarkTetrad is narcissism / machiavellianism / sociopathy-psychopathy / sadism )

    IF that book becomes normal, THEN the abuse of women increases.

    IF that book becomes uncommon, THEN that book’s “normal” is less harming our world.


    Does your body censor the cellular-expression of rabies/ebola/pneumonia/cancer, within it, WHILE accommodating the spectacular diversity of all the healthy-microbes in your gut, all the thousands upon thousands of different cell-types in your organs?

    What happens if your body ceases to censor entire-categories of cellular-expression/speech?

    pathogens win, then, & cancer wins.

    You die, within weeks: it’s called AIDS.

    Civilizations also die, when pathogens succeed in highjacking them & intentionally-crashing/wrecking them.

    The destruction that Hitler did to Germany was … rather total.

    The destruction that Stalin did to the people in the USSR was also profound & significant.

    Mao destroyed more Chinese people than any “enemy” ever did.

    In every 1 of these cases, it was pathogenic-ideology which “proved its authority” by obliterating millions of lives.

    Should serial-murder be censored/banned?

    Should domestic-violence?

    Should normalizing domestic-violence?

    Should normalizing molesting children?

    Expression cannot simultaneously be pathogenic & healthy.

    Not within our bodies, & not within our civilizations.


    It took … decades … but finally I clued-in to the key structure:

    • expression can be Aligned or Misaligned
    • expression can be Harmonious or Disharmonious
    • expression can be Free, Managed, or Oppressed

    The whole framing that Free-Speech is THE proper answer, ignores that if rabies had free-speech within your body, you’d be in the process of dying…

    It’s the wrong framing.

    Aligned is the right framing.

    Rabies is aligned with narcissism, machiavellianism, psychopathy ( it CANNOT value the life it’s consuming ), and … inadvertent-sadism.

    That is wrong alignment.

    IF its alignment is wrong, THEN it cannot be allowed free-expression.

    Period.

    Within one’s body, or within one’s civilization.

    ( issue-diagrams need to be able to identify what evil wants, & to include why it’s wrong, so there’s a kind of free-expression required for that, but firehose-of-disinformation cannot be accommodated, XOR it automatically wins: as Churchill pointed-out, lies are easy to produce, & spread like wildfire, before the truth has even got dressed. )

    Harmonious/consensus can be highjacked.

    The idiotic consensus “science” of the IPCC, where they simply didn’t allow any extreme models to be in the set-of-models for climate … & now ACTUAL ClimatePunctuation has accelerated sooo fast, sooo far, that NONE of the IPCC models match the current still accelerating actual-climate … the IPCC chose harmony, not alignment.

    ( the only reason I found out about them doing that was a video by Sabine Hossenfelder, whom I disagree with enough that I can’t recommend her as a consistently-right-source, but in this video’s case, she was right )

    Aligned HAS to be primary.

    Harmony, IF aligned, is right. Unaligned-harmony, however, is misleading-consensus, going the wrong way.

    Political-parties are made of that, in my eyes.

    Freedom-of-speech?

    Freedom-of-RIGHT-speech, true, correct, valuing-of-lives, valuing-of-civilrights, destroying-disinformation, growing-tranquility/peace, etc, certainly.

    But …

    … freedom-of-evil’s-speech? Freedom-of-false-accusation-and-false-conviction? Freedom-of-abuse? Freedom-of-gaslighting? Freedom-of-smearing? Freedom-of-bullying? Freedom-of-displacing-objectivity? Freedom-of-displacing-correct-reasoning? Freedom-of-blocking-evolution/growing-up? Freedom-of-prejudice-ideology? Freedom-of-genociding? Freedom of rabies? Freedom of cancer? Freedom of food-poisoning? Freedom of ebola? Freedom of rape? Freedom of murder?

    The root-error is that the optimal isn’t narcissistic-freedom, it is yogic aligned freedom: harnessing-our-lives-to-LivingSpirit or LivingWorth, depending on what your cosmology is.

    The denser the population, AND the stronger the technology, the more we have to live forebearantly, so as to not butcher the ecology, the future, others, & the world’s life.

    Anybody who lives with only primitive-technology, on a continent that has no other large-mammals on it, they can … pretty much do anything whatsoever, & nature will erase them when they’re gone.

    But make the population-density be city-level, & make the technology be our current level, & then ANYthing we do butchers the world measurably: therefore the holding-back, the forbearance, HAS to increase, XOR we’re just obliterating future-livesfor sake of our current ignorance/narcissism.

    & that is exactly what “yoga” means: to-harness/to-yoke/to-manage.

    All the political-framings ignore this underlying reality.

    “left is right!” vs “right is right!” … political-motivation, itsefl is delusional false-framing.

    It’s a systems question, not a political one.

    Carelessness costs opportunity.

    Competing in NASCAR?

    THEN which car do you want to be competing in?

    • the car with the sloppy build, the sloppy engineering, & the sloppy maintenance, XOR
    • the car with the precisely-perfect build, the precisely-perfect engineering, & the precisely-perfect maintenance: the perfectly regulated car?

    Economies are like racecars: you can mis-regulate them, & obliterate opportunity, XOR you can rightly regulate them, to prevent corruption, to eradicate waste/loss, to prevent waste, etc, & done right you end up winning: your economy becomes efficient, & powerful.

    Economies where healthcare is for all outperform economies where only the 1% can afford it, in some measures ( oligarchy isn’t 1 of those measures: in the oligarchy-measure, or the feudalism-measure, concentration-of-wealth is deemed the “win”, so they score oppositely ).

    Economies where evil is accommodated, & then social-pressure is applies to mitigate it once it’s taken-root … how can they compete with economies which prevent evil from taking-root?

    Then you get the question of “who gets to decide what evil means?”

    That’s easy: divide evil up into dimensions, & have anything which may be prevented ( as being evil ) judged on each & every 1 of those dimensions:

    • narcissism
    • machiavellianism
    • sociopathy/psychopathy
    • sadism
    • nihilism
    • obliteration-of-objectivity/intentional-wrong-framing
    • obliteration-of-correct-reasoning
    • obliteration-of-evolution-from-lives
    • intentional-ignorance/obliteration-of-truth

    would be a good starting-point for dimensions-of-evil.

    Back to the book which normalized-molesting…

    Narcissism, … self-machiavellianism?, some sociopathy, some nihilism-of-other-life’s-wholeness, intentional-wrong-framing, obliteration-of-correct-reasoning, indirect-obliteration-of-other-life’s-evolution ( messed-with lives often take many times the normal 21y to reach fully-functional adult meaning ), & intentional-ignorance…

    I’d want every 1 of the dimensions to be judged at 2 layers:

    • low, medium, high, only 3 options
    • within low, medium, or high, 3 sub-options: low-low, low-medium, low-high, medium-low…

    so that getting useful measures would be less prone to misunderstanding/scatter…

    So, false-framing becomes something censored/intentionally-suppressed…

    & integrity becomes something that is intentionally valued.

    unlike the way it is in politics, in many countries, right now…

    Is it either power-over-others or fear which would eradicate child-molesting & spouse-battering & apartheid-against-women & apartheid-against-ethnicities & apartheid-against-classes?

    I say no, it isn’t.

    It’s proper values.

    So, put-down the normalizing of evil.

    With the force actually required to do it.

    ( all this to say I want correct evidence-based management of our world, not ideological gaslighting as a “religion” )


    Salut, Namaste, & Kaizen,

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