All those terms, “increasing shareholder value” , “no tracking”, “is billionaire proof” , “no venture capital available”. would be really hard to understand for anyone that is not a hardcore fosshead . even if they will understand understanding the benefits of these properties is not easy . reportedly the average age of a reddit user is 23, how many 23 year old know what “venture capital” and “shareholder” even mean?
Maybe lemmy needs something like a whitepaper or a manifesto.
I looked around for some info about A/B testing but it seems relatively complicated to setup. Do you have any tools to suggest for that?
Not really. i know wikimedia foundation did that but it is probably not the best option. googling gives a few results but that’s not really insightful.
And I can see what you mean about the text sounding unsure. What do you think about this one?
I don’t think this solves the problems i mentioned (including in the pull request). donations and working full time are a means to an end. the average response by average joe might be “well they can just get a regular job like the rest of us”.
I don’t we should insist on just having a elevator pitch. sure an elevator pitch is very useful but i know that when i wanted to donate to charities I looked for a decent chunk of information to help me make a decision.
this part that appears inside thunderbird (which seems to be doing very well interm of fundraising) is more like something i had in mind (in term of feeling important)
there is some research about this type of messaging (see risk aversion and fear appeals). naturally it does not feel great because i think the thought that a project is at risk and might need donations is a negative evaluation that will probably produce a negative emotion. but i think it is the honest truth for thunderbird and lemmy and any large scale open source project.
If you know a catchy name for this series you can also comment it below.
Add “help design lemmy” next to the title? e.g.
Help Design Lemmy: How to improve the Joinlemmy Donation page?
As i said adding a “learn more” section would be really helpful. right now it sounds like you are not really sure you even want donations. if you won’t believe people should donate and are not willing to explain why people should do it why should potential donors believe it? . so far i didn’t really see a noticeable spike in the patreon and liberapay stats despite many of the largest servers using the newest version (you can enable it to show the version of servers). some projects have a fairly consistent increases in the number of donations for years (e.g. 1 2 3 ) and i don’t think lemmy has less potential. even piefed donations have been increasing organically.
Of course A/B testing will be the best way to prove these claims.
Maybe we could crowd source a list of arguments about why people should donate.
IANAL , but theoretically a judge could decide that part of the AGPL is “unreasonable” and a case could go to trail which could be expensive.
Also you are still running the lemmy.ml instance which could theoretically lead to a lawsuit. its why lemmy.world created the fedihosting foundation which reportedly functions as a limited liability company.
Also a cooperative (what you want to set up), where some of the profit in the form of a salary go to the “owners” which are the workers as far as i can tell can’t be a non profit
That is true, but not so easy to do. To make donation pages like those in your link would require setting up some kind of nonprofit and directly handling credit card payments with some payment processor
Shouldn’t it be a good idea anyway to set up a limited liability company at some point anyway? in case you will get sued.
Just add a timeout you have to wait before pressing, say 10-30 seconds.
There is a open issue , the developers talked about it but no one pulled the trigger on it, this can be implemented on the client in a way that is pretty good (you could create client side backups using something like dropbox). We could open more issues on the various lemmy clients and maybe even piefed which seems to prioritize feature development in a way that might be better then lemmy developers currently. you can already read the comments on piefed and then subscribe to the posts and incrementally read new comments.
Consider adding it to awesome lemmy which is linked to from the lemmy readme.
iirc yes, there was actually a link on every issue opened (see example), it was on bountysource which eventually died and iirc it was at a time where lemmy was not nearly as popular.
Some of them are paid , they get donation money , and also from the NLNET iirc (which is tax payer money iirc).
Anyway this isn’t how you handle feedback , there is a reason wikipedia has a guideline called assume good faith , because if you are not assuming good faith you are probably assuming bad faith and that makes it difficult for an organisation to function for obvious reasons.
Integrating with patreon or opencollective where one of the rewards is access to supporter only lemmy communities might be a good use case for a plugin system.
The project is missing developers, if you want to then implement them yourself , or fund raise the money using a bounty platform like polar, some of the ideas are fairly controversial and linus law of trail and error apply here, with that said i think lemmy could benefit from a add on system like those wordpress and discourse have and those ideas can be checked out.
Personally i had them accept some of my feedback before (e.g. i am the one who requested the ability to block an instance which got implemented despite one of the developers were against it and the other suggested i should switch instances).
Just try to be prudent and persuasive .
Any highlights from the study?
It seems mostly like “lemmy is now moderately liked”.
Companies use customer satisfaction as a way to estimate their future potential (like apple was cited as a company with a relatively high customer satisfaction, and indeed it’s stock and profits later seemed to surge).
Would be interesting to see something like that for lemmy (you can replace “customer” with “user” for this discussion it’s basically the same thing). comparing 1-10 rating of lemmy vs reddit or other platforms (but sample it well, to avoid review bombing), You can compare reddit google play rating with those of jerboa , but that has it own problems (for example a lot of people don’t use a mobile client i believe).
Codeberg and other alternatives are used by 2 people, if not more
It last reported it has about 400 members (people who pay money) , liberapay shows about 190 supports (and the number is slowly but consistently growing for years).
This is very frustrating if you want to report just one issue or make one pull request. Self-hosted repos are even worse.
It takes about a minute to make an account and store it in a password manager, it might be better because a higher threshold for contributing might mean a higher average quality of contributions.
Obligatory mention of Linus law of trail and error:
“Don’t ever make the mistake [of thinking] that you can design something better than what you get from ruthless massively parallel trial-and-error with a feedback cycle. That’s giving your intelligence much too much credit.”
Create a instance and lets see what happens.
Overall i think allowing donation is a good idea, supporting independent creators is good because big companies tend to go after the Lowest common denominator.
There is also mitra.
“rc” means release candidate, meaning they think it is ready so they want to test it but they don’t know if it is ready, so nobody knows for sure but it won’t be long probably.
The point is i think it is a moderation decision to do that, you are welcome to host your own instance with a modified version of lemmy.
I find that problematic from an ethical perspective.
You are not entitled to the moderation you want, host your own instance, it’s their club.
Regarding mental health . avoidance is generally not considered a good thing. one of the criticism of why technology is bad for cognition is that it creates a very pleasant experience but solving problems and achieving meaningful outcomes in the real world requires delaying gratification and accepting negative experiences
Emotional regulation and resilience are skills. if you don’t get negative experiences you don’t get to practice those skills. this is why helicopter parenting where well meaning parents do too much for their kids end up creating psychological problems like lowered self esteem.