The difference is a random IP is a random IP. You don’t know who it’s connected to. Once someone says “This is my IP” you now have it connected to a specific person, and other specific people may want to fuck with the original person.
Bots already scan all open IP addresses for vulnerabilities, but hackers live for people who give up information for free because fucking with someone who thinks they’re safe from it all is fun to them apparently.
So just put your phone number on the front page of Lemmy. Or are you practicing security through obscurity by not releasing it? /s
It’s not security through obscurity to not divulge information that need not be divulged. It’s not obscure if there’s lots of ways to find an IP. Like I said, it’s like putting a phone number out there. Like that one guy from 10 years ago who posted his phone number online and immediately regretted it because his phone just wouldn’t stop ringing. He wasn’t “afraid” until it totally fucked up his ability to use his phone. I’m just trying to be helpful. If you really want to put yourself on blast, go for it man.
It’s like putting your phone number on the wall of a bathroom stall. Maybe you won’t get a lot of prank calls, maybe you will. It’s a crapshoot.
The thing is, posting your public IP is like asking for a number of hackers to start probing your network for lapses in security. Not because you’re a juicy target, but simply because you put the information out there. That’s been bog standard for the internet for 20 years now.
Sure, IP addresses can be found through various ways, but having them out for everybody to see is just asking for more trouble than it is worth. You’re making yourself a target and creating more work for yourself if you’re constantly getting hacked because of it.
Like I don’t even want to do anything malicious and I immediately started up a traceroute.
They also keep thinking I’m talking about the services they provide, and not, you know the actual fucking servers those services run on. Surprise, the servers themselves also need an operating system and the “server” you create is a Virtual Machine that lives on their actual, physical server and its OS.
Every day I learn more about how people don’t actually understand how the internet works.
I’m literally not talking about the services they provide, I’m talking about the AWS servers themselves. The physical box that lives at Amazon. To boot up it has to have an operating system. That OS is a flavor of Linux. The number of people who have not understood that in this thread is downright mind boggling.
All right, I agree with that take. However, I would also argue that those are choice you can make when using AWS, and while Amazon surely pushes those solutions through ads and whatnot, it’s still a choice that people can make. Yes, after they’ve made that choice, they’re fucked out of luck if they want to switch to a different service, but that’s why (in my opinion) “the cloud” was always a lie that was meant to benefit large corporations. It reduced IT overhead for small companies, but it did it, like you point out, at the expense of getting locked into the vendor-environment.
If they can’t see that in the future this will cause lock-in… once again, that’s their own shortsightedness and inability to consider the implications of using exclusively AWS servers and services.
Vendor lock-in from a service provider is different from vendor lock-in from using proprietary software.
If you’re dumb enough to not host your shit locally and instead rely on Amazon, that’s literally your own shortsightedness that led to vendor lock in.
The first mistake anyone made was thinking putting their whole business on some other businesses private property was a good idea. Pro-tip: it’s not.
In other words, I already agree with you, but I think vendor lock-in for services is a vaslty different issue than vendor lock-in for proprietary software.
Motherfuckers out here think data isn’t a physical object and that the cloud is actually a cloud.
No, god damn it, all data is stored in a medium, whether that’s a book, a Bluray disc, or a hard drive. It’s mediums for storing data. If you destroy the storage medium, the data ceases to exist. Thus, data is a physical object.
That’s not what I meant by “runs on Linux.” I mean the software that makes AWS servers function, behind the scenes, is Linux. You’re allowed to install whatever you want on a server if you rent a server from AWS, but the software that allows you to rent a server from them and lets you set up your own server is… Linux.
AWS servers run on an operating system that is a CentOS/RHEL flavor of Linux that has been heavily modified by Amazon for their use-case.
Running your server on someone else’s hardware isn’t the same thing as using not using open source?
AWS’s servers themselves run on an Amazon-modified flavor of Linux. I’m pretty sure this version already is a fork of CentOS or RHEL.
If you choose to use AWS, you can choose a variety of Linux flavors to run.
If you choose to leave AWS and you have to find a new hosting provider or need to procure hardware to host it yourself, that has nothing to do with the provider being open source or not. Them forking their versions of Linux really only affects Amazon internally, they’re not giving their internally used version out to everyone for use. They have Amazon’s Linux 2 which they do give away to everyone to use, but why would you use it when there’s more open versions of Linux available?
Once again, this seems mostly like people confusing using open source software and using hardware that someone else owns. Open source isn’t about who owns the hardware, that’s a private property issue. That’s more akin to setting up your business on Amazon’s lawn and then getting frustrated when Amazon isn’t mowing their lawn and your business can’t be seen from the road. Honestly, that’s what you get for setting up shop on someone else’s property where they already have their own shop.
Might be fun to rig the power button so if someone presses it, that song from the Transformers animated movie starts playing…
“You’ve got the touch. You’ve got the power! Yeah!”