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  • Cataphract@lemmy.mltoLemmy@lemmy.mlGoodbye Reddit, Hello Lemmy!
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    4 months ago

    Eh, anything linked on Reddit has it’s own link on here in regards to News. I get news from multiple sources offline and on so putting up with Reddit’s negative aspects isn’t worth it for me. I also enjoy the discourse on here a lot more, Reddit responses seem more of a “bubble” than the entire Lemmy community you’re labeling.

    I’ll share 2 semi-recent posts I read as an example of why I’m on here instead of Reddit. Btw, both of these posts are about the same BBC article but obviously paint a completely different picture.


    Reddit : Crew trapped on Baltimore ship, seven weeks after bridge collapse

    Top 4 Comments (1387 total)

    • holy shit its been 7 weeks since that collapse? (13.4k upvotes)
    • Part of the ship, part of the crew! (4712 upvotes)
    • I think “stuck on the ship” is a better phrase. “Trapped” brings to mind being wedged under a fallen brace or something. (8388 upvotes)
    • So not trapped just maintaining the ship like they’re paid to do. (5756 upvotes)

    Lemmy: They detonated chunks of the bridge while sailors are on board because the US won’t allow them shoreside.

    Top 4 Comments (30 total)

    • This shit is extremely weird and happens all over. For some reason sailors are just absolutely not allowed off their shitty falling apart ships and have to stay on board even after the owners vanish and leave them hanging in the wind. There are sailors trapped in this situation in ports all over the world - the ships are too damaged to sail, or the owners vanished without paying port fees and the ship is impounded, or whatever. Weird shit. And all these sailors, mostly from global south countries, are trapped. The country they’re stuck in won’t let them off the ship, they have no way to pay for port fees or fuel and sometimes even food or water. It’s utterly fucking bizarre. I don’t think it’s a large number of ships in absolute terms, but it is common in the sense that at least a few ships are trapped in this limbo all the time. There’s this whole world of ultra-shady shipping with ships that are registered in sketchy tax haven countries, or have no registration, and they get abandoned all the time. And sailors in general just get treated like shit. A lot of sailors come from poor global south countries and get treated as disposable. Terrible conditions, bad or no support from the ship owners, if something goes wrong they can be stranded and totally fucked. It’s a mess, like a serious problem for workers. @Frank@hexbear.net
    • the FBI still has their seized phones and shit, so not only are they stuck on a damaged ship they might be unable to reach out to family and friends (not sure what the communication/internet situation is on a ship like that). @nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net
    • If you think this is wild you should read some stories about stowaways. I know a guy who sailed with a dude who had been a stowaway on danish ships for a couple decades, and that was a nice story. A lot of the stowaways get tortured and/or killed and then dumped in international waters. A stowaway is any person who is not on the ships’ manifest. Lot of refugees that just… disappear. Stowaways can be made to work while they’re on your ship, though you have to provide them lodgings and food. There’s a lot of people who get found on ships, are made to work and then are unable to leave the ship because no country will take them. Then they’re just stuck there forever. @Egon@hexbear.net
    • How the fuck is “you have to let people on cargo ships into your country at least temporarily” not in any of the treaties we have regarding international shipping? @ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net

    I just don’t have the time to read through 1300 joke comments to get to the 30 or so of actual discussions I’m interested in. The fact that the top comments are just arguing over terminology semantics used in a title (and not the conditions or situation these people were forced into) isn’t something I wish to waste my time on.

    If lemmy.ml gets to be like Reddit, I just have to move to a smaller instance and I’m done.


  • “He’s not”, but the app is by initiating the AdMob. I understand we’re stating the data isn’t “in his hands”, but it could be more transparent and a selling point for the Ad-free version by stating the mechanics and why the legal terminology is in the agreement. This post has been very informative and could be a learning lesson for others.

    Personally I’ve always wondered about companies that have “free versions” and “paid versions”. I understand the mantra of free versions being “You are the product”, so with paid versions am I still a product with my data or is that protected somehow? This conversation has cleared it up for me in regards to this app at least.